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		<title>Comment on When is No Kill not No Kill? Say that ten times fast by Matt</title>
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		<description>I have been watching the No Kill Animal Shelter situation very closely recently.New York City has some serious issues as well…consider the following:

I have discovered something very strange. It’ll make you scratch your head in wonder. It, potentially, is a very dangerous situation for cats and dogs…..indeed it is a matter of life or death.

Please consider the following information:

In the current July/August edition of Best Friends Magazine (on news stands now) Best Friends salutes NYC and provides the following information:

“New York City animal lovers have a reason to celebrate: The percentage of dogs and cats euthanized in the city’s shelters hit an all-time low last year-33 percent, down from 69 percent in 2003. During the same period, the adoption rate for shelter pets increased to 66 percent, up from 26 percent. The numbers were cited as the mayor announced a $1 million grant from the ASPCA to the Mayor’s Alliance for NYC’s Animals, a colaition of more than 160 animal rescue groups and shelters that work with animal care and control in New York. The money will be used to increase the number of adoptions and transfers, and to provide low - and no - cost spay/neuter services to low-income people with pets.

According to figures from the alliance, 13,620 animals were euthanized at Animal Care &#38; Control of New York City shelters in 2009, out of 41,712 pets taken in. A total of 8,192 pets were adopted and 17,641 were transferred to rescue organizations and other shelters”

Now, for the other side of the story:

Nathan Winograd, No Kill Pioneer and creator of the No Kill Advocacy Center, posted the following information to his blog just a day or two ago:

“New York City in Chaos

July 14, 2010 by Nathan J. Winograd

Less than a month after the ASPCA and the Mayor’s Alliance succeeded in killing Oreo’s Law, New York City Animal Care &#38; Control (ACC) has announced that it will not allow any new rescue groups to save the lives of animals until a new rescue policy is finalized at the end of August. Oreo’s Law sought to make such conduct illegal. According to rescue groups in New York City, the city pound “has suspended all new rescues that were recently approved.” These allegations were confirmed by e-mails obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator.

The refusal to work with these groups is already costing the animals their lives. While groups like the ASPCA and Mayor’s Alliance claim that New York City is saving all healthy animals, the pound has contradicted those false assertions, killing hundreds in the process while stating “an overpopulation of adoptable animals requires us to humanely euthanize animals,” even as they are turning away rescue groups for the next two months.

On top of that, the pound has decided to renovate their kennels during the busiest time of year, cutting capacity, resulting in even more deaths. According to a July 1 e-mail obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator:

The contractors are going to start work shortly on the final phase on the project, which involves replacing the floors in a significant portion of the building. We are excited for the many improvements that help make the shelter a better place, although the final phases of construction will pose challenges in addition those normally brought on by kitten season. Work on the floors is set to start Tuesday July 6th, and will be done in phases that have been carefully considered to have the least impact on our operations as possible. However, we will have to make adjustments for housing the dogs and cats and our housing capacity will be temporarily reduced until the project is complete. The work plan will initially impact our dog housing capacity, following by cat housing capacity, until the project is finished…

And it gets worse. In addition to claiming they do not have enough food to feed the animals right down the street from the nation’s wealthiest SPCA (the ASPCA takes in over $120,000,000 per year), the shelter is withholding pain medications from injured animals.

An e-mail obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator says the above cat is in pain from an injury, but there are “No pain meds available to give the cat.” If rescue groups do not act within one day, the cat will be killed.

New York City is killing healthy animals, turning away rescue groups, running out of food to feed the animals, refusing to give pain medications to injured animals, and is doing construction during the height of the busy summer season, causing them to kill even more.

This is the model program touted by the Mayor’s Alliance, which will be featured at the Best Friends No More Homeless Pets Conference in Las Vegas this October by Jane Hoffman. This is the model program that Laura Allen of the Animal Law Coalition said NYS should follow in her opposition to Oreo’s Law.

Thanks to the ASPCA, Mayor’s Alliance, and Animal Law Coalition, New York City’s regressive pound has a license to turn away rescue groups and kill the animals they are willing to save. And thanks to Best Friends, Alley Cat Allies, and others who refused to support Oreo’s Law in deference to their relationships with these groups, that license is not being revoked anytime soon.”

WHAT THE &#38;@$# IS GOING ON????????????????

ASPCA has the money for a $1 Million grant, and takes in $120 million a year, but they “cant afford to feed the shelter animals”?????? What kind of bullpoop is that? They are ‘working towards becoming No-Kill’ (Ed Sayres, Money Maker, Politician, and ASPCA head, promised the same to Los Angeles……never happened) yet they are going to kill healthy animals?

That’s like trying to make ice cubes by putting the tray of water in the microwave and using the “High” setting.

You are going about it in a “bass ackwards” way.

This is a very disturbing and serious discrepancy on the part of the ASPCA/Mayor’s Alliance for NYC’s Animals that must be cleared up.

IF both Best Friends and Nathan Winograd have reported their info correctly, and I dont doubt that they have, then we have a serious problem.

Because it would mean that the politicians in the Animal Sheltering system/business in NYC have their heads where the sun doesnt shine.

Let me explain something, and I’m not a Harvard graduate, I’ll be the first to admit it, and I’m not a preacher, but I have to say what needs to be said: The real truth: You dont have to have graduated NASA’s Rocket Science program to see the problem: If what Both Best Friends and Nathan Winograd said are true, then, can there be any OTHER explanation for this, other than that the ASPCA/NYC Mayor’s Alliance for NYC’s Animals are mere politicians and businessmen/women wearing ‘Animal Rescue’ T-shirts?

You are either no kill or you arent. There isnt any middle ground.

Saying that you are a “No-Kill Supporter” while sending healthy, precious souls to their deaths is like saying that you are “Anti-Prostitution” while visiting the whorehouse once a week to take advantage of “The Weekly Special”.

Politics. Hypocrisy. B.S.

This would mean that Ed Sayres and the ASPCA, and the Mayor and the other half-butted politicians in NYC are holding their cell phones in one hand, telling others about their decrease of euthanasia (murder) rates, while holding a recently killed four legged victim (a shelter cat or dog) in their other hand, as they walk towards the pile of other dead innocent individuals who they have murdered that day.

This is NOT the behavior of true, caring humans who view their fellow souls as equally deserving of life and love as themselves. It is NOT, I repeat NOT the behavior of No-Kill supporters. It is, in fact, the behavior of politicians, playing “both sides” of the same coin in order to:

A: Satisfy the No-Kill Groups that they are ‘working towards no-kill’, to get them off their backs, while they’re just spinning their wheels.

B: Continue their money making, and or political goals.

I think an investigation should be made into exactly what NYC is up to.

I also think that Best Friends Animal Society and Nathan Winograd, along with the HSUS, ASPCA should all get together to hold a No-Kill Summit Meeting, to clear the air, and clarify each other’s true stance on the No-Kill issue, so that everyone knows where everyone else stands. It’s important that Best Friends and Nathan Winograd stay on the same team…together they are a powerful No-Kill force. It’s obvious that PETA murders 97% of cats and dogs and are murderers. They admit it, with a smile. (Homicidal maniacs). The HSUS, via their ultra-white toothed, nice smiling President, Wayne Pacelle, who admits to never “Sharing a bond with any animal” says one thing, and then does another…more politics. One day they are ‘No-Kill’, the next they say: “We think that feral cats or pitbulls, like the Vick dogs should be killed”.

These groups “waffle” more than (Leggo My) Eggo Inc.

I’ll say it again:

You are either No-Kill
Or you are Anti- No-Kill.

There is no middle ground. Pick a stance, take it, dig your shoes 2 feet deep into the dirt beneath you, stand tall and strong, and stick to your guns…… no excuses, no semantics, no politics, no leaning towards another direction, no tolerating the killers, no condoning the killers’ actions, no looking the other way as the killers kill, no neutrality, no distracting from your mission……keep working towards No-Kill…until ‘euthanasia’ (murder) rates are 0 Percent. Nothing less is acceptable. No surrender.

We owe Cats and Dogs who give us unconditional love more than we could ever give it back to them in return, nothing less.

Remember the mission.

No-Kill.

It wont get done by playing games or by tolerating games being played. This is serious. It’s life or death.

Make believe that the next cat or dog on death row is your child (Cats and Dogs are equally as precious, and equally deserving of life and love, as any of us human animals). Now, act on behalf of that cat or dog as you would on behalf of your child.

Would the NYC situation be overlooked, tolerated, or ignored if your child was there in the middle of it, and were the next in line to be added to “the pile” of dead victims? Neither should the situation involving the beautiful four legged Children of God in shelters (Cats and Dogs) be overlooked, tolerated or ignored.

THAT is the way a true No Kill group SHOULD view their fellow living souls, and as we have seen, NYC’s ASPCA/Mayor’s Alliance doesnt know “shinola” from that “other stuff” when it comes to treating every cat and dog as an individual person…an individual soul. And it is the same in kill shelters and pounds all across the nation and the world….politics…. “Sing a lullaby of lies to those who care about animals until they seem satisfied (though the killing continues which is UNSATISFACTORY) and those who dont care, we dont have to worry about them…meanwhile, the dough keeps rolling in and our status quo, which we have become very comfortable with, remains unchanged” is the attitude of these groups, and they pose a clear and present danger to every four legged soul in every shelter across the nation and the world.

We cant ignore these indifferent, ignorant, arrogant, speciesist human elitist murderers anymore….. It is time to take a stand against them…..as you would if your child was a member of a children’s kill shelter, who is giving you the runaround, while murdering children behind the scenes.

After all, we are ALL Children of the same God.

One life. One soul.

Dont forget it.

On Behalf of Shelter Cats and Dogs, I am,

Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been watching the No Kill Animal Shelter situation very closely recently.New York City has some serious issues as well…consider the following:</p>
<p>I have discovered something very strange. It’ll make you scratch your head in wonder. It, potentially, is a very dangerous situation for cats and dogs…..indeed it is a matter of life or death.</p>
<p>Please consider the following information:</p>
<p>In the current July/August edition of Best Friends Magazine (on news stands now) Best Friends salutes NYC and provides the following information:</p>
<p>“New York City animal lovers have a reason to celebrate: The percentage of dogs and cats euthanized in the city’s shelters hit an all-time low last year-33 percent, down from 69 percent in 2003. During the same period, the adoption rate for shelter pets increased to 66 percent, up from 26 percent. The numbers were cited as the mayor announced a $1 million grant from the ASPCA to the Mayor’s Alliance for NYC’s Animals, a colaition of more than 160 animal rescue groups and shelters that work with animal care and control in New York. The money will be used to increase the number of adoptions and transfers, and to provide low - and no - cost spay/neuter services to low-income people with pets.</p>
<p>According to figures from the alliance, 13,620 animals were euthanized at Animal Care &amp; Control of New York City shelters in 2009, out of 41,712 pets taken in. A total of 8,192 pets were adopted and 17,641 were transferred to rescue organizations and other shelters”</p>
<p>Now, for the other side of the story:</p>
<p>Nathan Winograd, No Kill Pioneer and creator of the No Kill Advocacy Center, posted the following information to his blog just a day or two ago:</p>
<p>“New York City in Chaos</p>
<p>July 14, 2010 by Nathan J. Winograd</p>
<p>Less than a month after the ASPCA and the Mayor’s Alliance succeeded in killing Oreo’s Law, New York City Animal Care &amp; Control (ACC) has announced that it will not allow any new rescue groups to save the lives of animals until a new rescue policy is finalized at the end of August. Oreo’s Law sought to make such conduct illegal. According to rescue groups in New York City, the city pound “has suspended all new rescues that were recently approved.” These allegations were confirmed by e-mails obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator.</p>
<p>The refusal to work with these groups is already costing the animals their lives. While groups like the ASPCA and Mayor’s Alliance claim that New York City is saving all healthy animals, the pound has contradicted those false assertions, killing hundreds in the process while stating “an overpopulation of adoptable animals requires us to humanely euthanize animals,” even as they are turning away rescue groups for the next two months.</p>
<p>On top of that, the pound has decided to renovate their kennels during the busiest time of year, cutting capacity, resulting in even more deaths. According to a July 1 e-mail obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator:</p>
<p>The contractors are going to start work shortly on the final phase on the project, which involves replacing the floors in a significant portion of the building. We are excited for the many improvements that help make the shelter a better place, although the final phases of construction will pose challenges in addition those normally brought on by kitten season. Work on the floors is set to start Tuesday July 6th, and will be done in phases that have been carefully considered to have the least impact on our operations as possible. However, we will have to make adjustments for housing the dogs and cats and our housing capacity will be temporarily reduced until the project is complete. The work plan will initially impact our dog housing capacity, following by cat housing capacity, until the project is finished…</p>
<p>And it gets worse. In addition to claiming they do not have enough food to feed the animals right down the street from the nation’s wealthiest SPCA (the ASPCA takes in over $120,000,000 per year), the shelter is withholding pain medications from injured animals.</p>
<p>An e-mail obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator says the above cat is in pain from an injury, but there are “No pain meds available to give the cat.” If rescue groups do not act within one day, the cat will be killed.</p>
<p>New York City is killing healthy animals, turning away rescue groups, running out of food to feed the animals, refusing to give pain medications to injured animals, and is doing construction during the height of the busy summer season, causing them to kill even more.</p>
<p>This is the model program touted by the Mayor’s Alliance, which will be featured at the Best Friends No More Homeless Pets Conference in Las Vegas this October by Jane Hoffman. This is the model program that Laura Allen of the Animal Law Coalition said NYS should follow in her opposition to Oreo’s Law.</p>
<p>Thanks to the ASPCA, Mayor’s Alliance, and Animal Law Coalition, New York City’s regressive pound has a license to turn away rescue groups and kill the animals they are willing to save. And thanks to Best Friends, Alley Cat Allies, and others who refused to support Oreo’s Law in deference to their relationships with these groups, that license is not being revoked anytime soon.”</p>
<p>WHAT THE &amp;@$# IS GOING ON????????????????</p>
<p>ASPCA has the money for a $1 Million grant, and takes in $120 million a year, but they “cant afford to feed the shelter animals”?????? What kind of bullpoop is that? They are ‘working towards becoming No-Kill’ (Ed Sayres, Money Maker, Politician, and ASPCA head, promised the same to Los Angeles……never happened) yet they are going to kill healthy animals?</p>
<p>That’s like trying to make ice cubes by putting the tray of water in the microwave and using the “High” setting.</p>
<p>You are going about it in a “bass ackwards” way.</p>
<p>This is a very disturbing and serious discrepancy on the part of the ASPCA/Mayor’s Alliance for NYC’s Animals that must be cleared up.</p>
<p>IF both Best Friends and Nathan Winograd have reported their info correctly, and I dont doubt that they have, then we have a serious problem.</p>
<p>Because it would mean that the politicians in the Animal Sheltering system/business in NYC have their heads where the sun doesnt shine.</p>
<p>Let me explain something, and I’m not a Harvard graduate, I’ll be the first to admit it, and I’m not a preacher, but I have to say what needs to be said: The real truth: You dont have to have graduated NASA’s Rocket Science program to see the problem: If what Both Best Friends and Nathan Winograd said are true, then, can there be any OTHER explanation for this, other than that the ASPCA/NYC Mayor’s Alliance for NYC’s Animals are mere politicians and businessmen/women wearing ‘Animal Rescue’ T-shirts?</p>
<p>You are either no kill or you arent. There isnt any middle ground.</p>
<p>Saying that you are a “No-Kill Supporter” while sending healthy, precious souls to their deaths is like saying that you are “Anti-Prostitution” while visiting the whorehouse once a week to take advantage of “The Weekly Special”.</p>
<p>Politics. Hypocrisy. B.S.</p>
<p>This would mean that Ed Sayres and the ASPCA, and the Mayor and the other half-butted politicians in NYC are holding their cell phones in one hand, telling others about their decrease of euthanasia (murder) rates, while holding a recently killed four legged victim (a shelter cat or dog) in their other hand, as they walk towards the pile of other dead innocent individuals who they have murdered that day.</p>
<p>This is NOT the behavior of true, caring humans who view their fellow souls as equally deserving of life and love as themselves. It is NOT, I repeat NOT the behavior of No-Kill supporters. It is, in fact, the behavior of politicians, playing “both sides” of the same coin in order to:</p>
<p>A: Satisfy the No-Kill Groups that they are ‘working towards no-kill’, to get them off their backs, while they’re just spinning their wheels.</p>
<p>B: Continue their money making, and or political goals.</p>
<p>I think an investigation should be made into exactly what NYC is up to.</p>
<p>I also think that Best Friends Animal Society and Nathan Winograd, along with the HSUS, ASPCA should all get together to hold a No-Kill Summit Meeting, to clear the air, and clarify each other’s true stance on the No-Kill issue, so that everyone knows where everyone else stands. It’s important that Best Friends and Nathan Winograd stay on the same team…together they are a powerful No-Kill force. It’s obvious that PETA murders 97% of cats and dogs and are murderers. They admit it, with a smile. (Homicidal maniacs). The HSUS, via their ultra-white toothed, nice smiling President, Wayne Pacelle, who admits to never “Sharing a bond with any animal” says one thing, and then does another…more politics. One day they are ‘No-Kill’, the next they say: “We think that feral cats or pitbulls, like the Vick dogs should be killed”.</p>
<p>These groups “waffle” more than (Leggo My) Eggo Inc.</p>
<p>I’ll say it again:</p>
<p>You are either No-Kill<br />
Or you are Anti- No-Kill.</p>
<p>There is no middle ground. Pick a stance, take it, dig your shoes 2 feet deep into the dirt beneath you, stand tall and strong, and stick to your guns…… no excuses, no semantics, no politics, no leaning towards another direction, no tolerating the killers, no condoning the killers’ actions, no looking the other way as the killers kill, no neutrality, no distracting from your mission……keep working towards No-Kill…until ‘euthanasia’ (murder) rates are 0 Percent. Nothing less is acceptable. No surrender.</p>
<p>We owe Cats and Dogs who give us unconditional love more than we could ever give it back to them in return, nothing less.</p>
<p>Remember the mission.</p>
<p>No-Kill.</p>
<p>It wont get done by playing games or by tolerating games being played. This is serious. It’s life or death.</p>
<p>Make believe that the next cat or dog on death row is your child (Cats and Dogs are equally as precious, and equally deserving of life and love, as any of us human animals). Now, act on behalf of that cat or dog as you would on behalf of your child.</p>
<p>Would the NYC situation be overlooked, tolerated, or ignored if your child was there in the middle of it, and were the next in line to be added to “the pile” of dead victims? Neither should the situation involving the beautiful four legged Children of God in shelters (Cats and Dogs) be overlooked, tolerated or ignored.</p>
<p>THAT is the way a true No Kill group SHOULD view their fellow living souls, and as we have seen, NYC’s ASPCA/Mayor’s Alliance doesnt know “shinola” from that “other stuff” when it comes to treating every cat and dog as an individual person…an individual soul. And it is the same in kill shelters and pounds all across the nation and the world….politics…. “Sing a lullaby of lies to those who care about animals until they seem satisfied (though the killing continues which is UNSATISFACTORY) and those who dont care, we dont have to worry about them…meanwhile, the dough keeps rolling in and our status quo, which we have become very comfortable with, remains unchanged” is the attitude of these groups, and they pose a clear and present danger to every four legged soul in every shelter across the nation and the world.</p>
<p>We cant ignore these indifferent, ignorant, arrogant, speciesist human elitist murderers anymore….. It is time to take a stand against them…..as you would if your child was a member of a children’s kill shelter, who is giving you the runaround, while murdering children behind the scenes.</p>
<p>After all, we are ALL Children of the same God.</p>
<p>One life. One soul.</p>
<p>Dont forget it.</p>
<p>On Behalf of Shelter Cats and Dogs, I am,</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the Customer Ever Right at SF Animal Care and Control? by Matt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 05:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Friends,

I have been watching the No Kill Animal Shelter situation very closely recently.New York City has some serious issues as well...consider the following:

I have discovered something very strange. It'll make you scratch your head in wonder.  It, potentially, is a very dangerous situation for cats and dogs.....indeed it is a matter of life or death.

Please consider the following information:

In the current July/August edition of Best Friends Magazine (on news stands now) Best Friends salutes NYC and provides the following information:

"New York City animal lovers have a reason to celebrate: The percentage of dogs and cats euthanized in the city's shelters hit an all-time low last year-33 percent, down from 69 percent in 2003. During the same period, the adoption rate for shelter pets increased to 66 percent, up from 26 percent. The numbers were cited as the mayor announced a $1 million grant from the ASPCA to the Mayor's Alliance for NYC's Animals, a colaition of more than 160 animal rescue groups and shelters that work with animal care and control in New York. The money will be used to increase the number of adoptions and transfers, and to provide low - and no - cost spay/neuter services to low-income people with pets.

  According to figures from the alliance, 13,620 animals were euthanized at Animal Care &#38; Control of New York City shelters in 2009, out of 41,712 pets taken in. A total of 8,192 pets were adopted and 17,641 were transferred to rescue organizations and other shelters"

Now, for the other side of the story:

Nathan Winograd, No Kill Pioneer and creator of the No Kill Advocacy Center, posted the following information to his blog just a day or two ago:

"New York City in Chaos

July 14, 2010 by Nathan J. Winograd

 

Less than a month after the ASPCA and the Mayor’s Alliance succeeded in killing Oreo’s Law, New York City Animal Care &#38; Control (ACC) has announced that it will not allow any new rescue groups to save the lives of animals until a new rescue policy is finalized at the end of August. Oreo’s Law sought to make such conduct illegal. According to rescue groups in New York City, the city pound “has suspended all new rescues that were recently approved.” These allegations were confirmed by e-mails obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator.

The refusal to work with these groups is already costing the animals their lives. While groups like the ASPCA and Mayor’s Alliance claim that New York City is saving all healthy animals, the pound has contradicted those false assertions, killing hundreds in the process while stating “an overpopulation of adoptable animals requires us to humanely euthanize animals,” even as they are turning away rescue groups for the next two months.

On top of that, the pound has decided to renovate their kennels during the busiest time of year, cutting capacity, resulting in even more deaths. According to a July 1 e-mail obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator:

The contractors are going to start work shortly on the final phase on the project, which involves replacing the floors in a significant portion of the building. We are excited for the many improvements that help make the shelter a better place, although the final phases of construction will pose challenges in addition those normally brought on by kitten season. Work on the floors is set to start Tuesday July 6th, and will be done in phases that have been carefully considered to have the least impact on our operations as possible. However, we will have to make adjustments for housing the dogs and cats and our housing capacity will be temporarily reduced until the project is complete. The work plan will initially impact our dog housing capacity, following by cat housing capacity, until the project is finished…

And it gets worse. In addition to claiming they do not have enough food to feed the animals right down the street from the nation’s wealthiest SPCA (the ASPCA takes in over $120,000,000 per year), the shelter is withholding pain medications from injured animals.

An e-mail obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator says the above cat is in pain from an injury, but there are “No pain meds available to give the cat.” If rescue groups do not act within one day, the cat will be killed.

New York City is killing healthy animals, turning away rescue groups, running out of food to feed the animals, refusing to give pain medications to injured animals, and is doing construction during the height of the busy summer season, causing them to kill even more.

This is the model program touted by the Mayor’s Alliance, which will be featured at the Best Friends No More Homeless Pets Conference in Las Vegas this October by Jane Hoffman. This is the model program that Laura Allen of the Animal Law Coalition said NYS should follow in her opposition to Oreo’s Law.

Thanks to the ASPCA, Mayor’s Alliance, and Animal Law Coalition, New York City’s regressive pound has a license to turn away rescue groups and kill the animals they are willing to save. And thanks to Best Friends, Alley Cat Allies, and others who refused to support Oreo’s Law in deference to their relationships with these groups, that license is not being revoked anytime soon."

WHAT THE &#38;@$# IS GOING ON????????????????

ASPCA has the money for a $1 Million grant, and takes in $120 million a year, but they "cant afford to feed the shelter animals"?????? What kind of bullpoop is that? They are 'working towards becoming No-Kill' (Ed Sayres, Money Maker, Politician, and ASPCA head, promised the same to Los Angeles......never happened) yet they are going to kill healthy animals?

That's like trying to make ice cubes by putting the tray of water in the microwave and using the "High" setting.

  You are going about it in a "bass ackwards" way.

  This is a very disturbing and serious discrepancy on the part of the ASPCA/Mayor's Alliance for NYC's Animals that must be cleared up.


IF both Best Friends and Nathan Winograd have reported their info correctly, and I dont doubt that they have, then we have a serious problem.

Because it would mean that the politicians in the Animal Sheltering system/business in NYC have their heads where the sun doesnt shine.

Let me explain something, and I'm not a Harvard graduate, I'll be the first to admit it, and I'm not a preacher, but I have to say what needs to be said: The real truth: You dont have to have graduated NASA's Rocket Science program to see the problem: If what Both Best Friends and Nathan Winograd said are true, then, can there be any OTHER explanation for this, other than that the ASPCA/NYC Mayor's Alliance for NYC's Animals are mere politicians and businessmen/women wearing 'Animal Rescue' T-shirts?

You are either no kill or you arent. There isnt any middle ground.

  Saying that you are a "No-Kill Supporter" while sending healthy, precious souls to their deaths is like saying that you are "Anti-Prostitution" while visiting the whorehouse once a week to take advantage of "The Weekly Special".



Politics. Hypocrisy. B.S.

This would mean that Ed Sayres and the ASPCA, and the Mayor and the other half-butted politicians in NYC are holding their cell phones in one hand, telling others about their decrease of euthanasia (murder) rates, while holding a recently killed four legged victim (a shelter cat or dog) in their other hand, as they walk towards the pile of other dead innocent individuals who they have murdered that day.

  This is NOT the behavior of true, caring humans who view their fellow souls as equally deserving of life and love as themselves. It is NOT, I repeat NOT the behavior of No-Kill supporters. It is, in fact, the behavior of politicians, playing "both sides" of the same coin in order to:

A: Satisfy the No-Kill Groups that they are 'working towards no-kill', to get them off their backs, while they're just spinning their wheels.

B: Continue their money making, and or political goals.

I think an investigation should be made into exactly what NYC is up to.

I also think that Best Friends Animal Society and Nathan Winograd, along with the HSUS, ASPCA should all get together to hold a No-Kill Summit Meeting, to clear the air, and clarify each other's true stance on the No-Kill issue, so that everyone knows where everyone else stands. It's important that Best Friends and Nathan Winograd stay on the same team...together they are a powerful No-Kill force. It's obvious that PETA murders 97% of cats and dogs and are murderers. They admit it, with a smile. (Homicidal maniacs). The HSUS, via their ultra-white toothed, nice smiling President, Wayne Pacelle, who admits to never "Sharing a bond with any animal" says one thing, and then does another...more politics. One day they are 'No-Kill', the next they say: "We think that feral cats or pitbulls, like the Vick dogs should be killed".

  These groups "waffle" more than (Leggo My) Eggo Inc.

I'll say it again:

You are either No-Kill
Or you are Anti- No-Kill.

There is no middle ground. Pick a stance, take it, dig your shoes 2 feet deep into the dirt beneath you, stand tall and strong, and stick to your guns...... no excuses, no semantics, no politics, no leaning towards another direction, no tolerating the killers, no condoning the killers' actions, no looking the other way as the killers kill, no neutrality, no distracting from your mission......keep working towards No-Kill...until 'euthanasia' (murder) rates are 0 Percent. Nothing less is acceptable. No surrender.

We owe Cats and Dogs who give us unconditional love more than we could ever give it back to them in return, nothing less.

Remember the mission.

No-Kill.

It wont get done by playing games or by tolerating games being played. This is serious. It's life or death.

Make believe that the next cat or dog on death row is your child (Cats and Dogs are equally as precious, and equally deserving of life and love, as any of us human animals). Now, act on behalf of that cat or dog as you would on behalf of your child.

Would the NYC situation be overlooked, tolerated, or ignored if your child was there in the middle of it, and were the next in line to be added to "the pile" of dead victims? Neither should the situation involving the beautiful four legged Children of God in shelters (Cats and Dogs) be overlooked, tolerated or ignored.

THAT is the way a true No Kill group SHOULD view their fellow living souls, and as we have seen, NYC's ASPCA/Mayor's Alliance doesnt know "shinola" from that "other stuff" when it comes to treating every cat and dog as an individual person...an individual soul.  And it is the same in kill shelters and pounds all across the nation and the world....politics.... "Sing a lullaby of lies to those who care about animals until they seem satisfied (though the killing continues which is UNSATISFACTORY) and those who dont care, we dont have to worry about them...meanwhile, the dough keeps rolling in and our status quo, which we have become very comfortable with, remains unchanged" is the attitude of these groups, and they pose a clear and present danger to every four legged soul in every shelter across the nation and the world.

We cant ignore these indifferent, ignorant, arrogant, speciesist human elitist murderers anymore..... It is time to take a stand against them.....as you would if your child was a member of a children's kill shelter, who is giving you the runaround, while murdering children behind the scenes.

After all, we are ALL Children of the same God.

One life. One soul.

Dont forget it.

On Behalf of Shelter Cats and Dogs, I am,

Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends,</p>
<p>I have been watching the No Kill Animal Shelter situation very closely recently.New York City has some serious issues as well&#8230;consider the following:</p>
<p>I have discovered something very strange. It&#8217;ll make you scratch your head in wonder.  It, potentially, is a very dangerous situation for cats and dogs&#8230;..indeed it is a matter of life or death.</p>
<p>Please consider the following information:</p>
<p>In the current July/August edition of Best Friends Magazine (on news stands now) Best Friends salutes NYC and provides the following information:</p>
<p>&#8220;New York City animal lovers have a reason to celebrate: The percentage of dogs and cats euthanized in the city&#8217;s shelters hit an all-time low last year-33 percent, down from 69 percent in 2003. During the same period, the adoption rate for shelter pets increased to 66 percent, up from 26 percent. The numbers were cited as the mayor announced a $1 million grant from the ASPCA to the Mayor&#8217;s Alliance for NYC&#8217;s Animals, a colaition of more than 160 animal rescue groups and shelters that work with animal care and control in New York. The money will be used to increase the number of adoptions and transfers, and to provide low - and no - cost spay/neuter services to low-income people with pets.</p>
<p>  According to figures from the alliance, 13,620 animals were euthanized at Animal Care &amp; Control of New York City shelters in 2009, out of 41,712 pets taken in. A total of 8,192 pets were adopted and 17,641 were transferred to rescue organizations and other shelters&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, for the other side of the story:</p>
<p>Nathan Winograd, No Kill Pioneer and creator of the No Kill Advocacy Center, posted the following information to his blog just a day or two ago:</p>
<p>&#8220;New York City in Chaos</p>
<p>July 14, 2010 by Nathan J. Winograd</p>
<p>Less than a month after the ASPCA and the Mayor’s Alliance succeeded in killing Oreo’s Law, New York City Animal Care &amp; Control (ACC) has announced that it will not allow any new rescue groups to save the lives of animals until a new rescue policy is finalized at the end of August. Oreo’s Law sought to make such conduct illegal. According to rescue groups in New York City, the city pound “has suspended all new rescues that were recently approved.” These allegations were confirmed by e-mails obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator.</p>
<p>The refusal to work with these groups is already costing the animals their lives. While groups like the ASPCA and Mayor’s Alliance claim that New York City is saving all healthy animals, the pound has contradicted those false assertions, killing hundreds in the process while stating “an overpopulation of adoptable animals requires us to humanely euthanize animals,” even as they are turning away rescue groups for the next two months.</p>
<p>On top of that, the pound has decided to renovate their kennels during the busiest time of year, cutting capacity, resulting in even more deaths. According to a July 1 e-mail obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator:</p>
<p>The contractors are going to start work shortly on the final phase on the project, which involves replacing the floors in a significant portion of the building. We are excited for the many improvements that help make the shelter a better place, although the final phases of construction will pose challenges in addition those normally brought on by kitten season. Work on the floors is set to start Tuesday July 6th, and will be done in phases that have been carefully considered to have the least impact on our operations as possible. However, we will have to make adjustments for housing the dogs and cats and our housing capacity will be temporarily reduced until the project is complete. The work plan will initially impact our dog housing capacity, following by cat housing capacity, until the project is finished…</p>
<p>And it gets worse. In addition to claiming they do not have enough food to feed the animals right down the street from the nation’s wealthiest SPCA (the ASPCA takes in over $120,000,000 per year), the shelter is withholding pain medications from injured animals.</p>
<p>An e-mail obtained from ACC’s rescue coordinator says the above cat is in pain from an injury, but there are “No pain meds available to give the cat.” If rescue groups do not act within one day, the cat will be killed.</p>
<p>New York City is killing healthy animals, turning away rescue groups, running out of food to feed the animals, refusing to give pain medications to injured animals, and is doing construction during the height of the busy summer season, causing them to kill even more.</p>
<p>This is the model program touted by the Mayor’s Alliance, which will be featured at the Best Friends No More Homeless Pets Conference in Las Vegas this October by Jane Hoffman. This is the model program that Laura Allen of the Animal Law Coalition said NYS should follow in her opposition to Oreo’s Law.</p>
<p>Thanks to the ASPCA, Mayor’s Alliance, and Animal Law Coalition, New York City’s regressive pound has a license to turn away rescue groups and kill the animals they are willing to save. And thanks to Best Friends, Alley Cat Allies, and others who refused to support Oreo’s Law in deference to their relationships with these groups, that license is not being revoked anytime soon.&#8221;</p>
<p>WHAT THE &amp;@$# IS GOING ON????????????????</p>
<p>ASPCA has the money for a $1 Million grant, and takes in $120 million a year, but they &#8220;cant afford to feed the shelter animals&#8221;?????? What kind of bullpoop is that? They are &#8216;working towards becoming No-Kill&#8217; (Ed Sayres, Money Maker, Politician, and ASPCA head, promised the same to Los Angeles&#8230;&#8230;never happened) yet they are going to kill healthy animals?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like trying to make ice cubes by putting the tray of water in the microwave and using the &#8220;High&#8221; setting.</p>
<p>  You are going about it in a &#8220;bass ackwards&#8221; way.</p>
<p>  This is a very disturbing and serious discrepancy on the part of the ASPCA/Mayor&#8217;s Alliance for NYC&#8217;s Animals that must be cleared up.</p>
<p>IF both Best Friends and Nathan Winograd have reported their info correctly, and I dont doubt that they have, then we have a serious problem.</p>
<p>Because it would mean that the politicians in the Animal Sheltering system/business in NYC have their heads where the sun doesnt shine.</p>
<p>Let me explain something, and I&#8217;m not a Harvard graduate, I&#8217;ll be the first to admit it, and I&#8217;m not a preacher, but I have to say what needs to be said: The real truth: You dont have to have graduated NASA&#8217;s Rocket Science program to see the problem: If what Both Best Friends and Nathan Winograd said are true, then, can there be any OTHER explanation for this, other than that the ASPCA/NYC Mayor&#8217;s Alliance for NYC&#8217;s Animals are mere politicians and businessmen/women wearing &#8216;Animal Rescue&#8217; T-shirts?</p>
<p>You are either no kill or you arent. There isnt any middle ground.</p>
<p>  Saying that you are a &#8220;No-Kill Supporter&#8221; while sending healthy, precious souls to their deaths is like saying that you are &#8220;Anti-Prostitution&#8221; while visiting the whorehouse once a week to take advantage of &#8220;The Weekly Special&#8221;.</p>
<p>Politics. Hypocrisy. B.S.</p>
<p>This would mean that Ed Sayres and the ASPCA, and the Mayor and the other half-butted politicians in NYC are holding their cell phones in one hand, telling others about their decrease of euthanasia (murder) rates, while holding a recently killed four legged victim (a shelter cat or dog) in their other hand, as they walk towards the pile of other dead innocent individuals who they have murdered that day.</p>
<p>  This is NOT the behavior of true, caring humans who view their fellow souls as equally deserving of life and love as themselves. It is NOT, I repeat NOT the behavior of No-Kill supporters. It is, in fact, the behavior of politicians, playing &#8220;both sides&#8221; of the same coin in order to:</p>
<p>A: Satisfy the No-Kill Groups that they are &#8216;working towards no-kill&#8217;, to get them off their backs, while they&#8217;re just spinning their wheels.</p>
<p>B: Continue their money making, and or political goals.</p>
<p>I think an investigation should be made into exactly what NYC is up to.</p>
<p>I also think that Best Friends Animal Society and Nathan Winograd, along with the HSUS, ASPCA should all get together to hold a No-Kill Summit Meeting, to clear the air, and clarify each other&#8217;s true stance on the No-Kill issue, so that everyone knows where everyone else stands. It&#8217;s important that Best Friends and Nathan Winograd stay on the same team&#8230;together they are a powerful No-Kill force. It&#8217;s obvious that PETA murders 97% of cats and dogs and are murderers. They admit it, with a smile. (Homicidal maniacs). The HSUS, via their ultra-white toothed, nice smiling President, Wayne Pacelle, who admits to never &#8220;Sharing a bond with any animal&#8221; says one thing, and then does another&#8230;more politics. One day they are &#8216;No-Kill&#8217;, the next they say: &#8220;We think that feral cats or pitbulls, like the Vick dogs should be killed&#8221;.</p>
<p>  These groups &#8220;waffle&#8221; more than (Leggo My) Eggo Inc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it again:</p>
<p>You are either No-Kill<br />
Or you are Anti- No-Kill.</p>
<p>There is no middle ground. Pick a stance, take it, dig your shoes 2 feet deep into the dirt beneath you, stand tall and strong, and stick to your guns&#8230;&#8230; no excuses, no semantics, no politics, no leaning towards another direction, no tolerating the killers, no condoning the killers&#8217; actions, no looking the other way as the killers kill, no neutrality, no distracting from your mission&#8230;&#8230;keep working towards No-Kill&#8230;until &#8216;euthanasia&#8217; (murder) rates are 0 Percent. Nothing less is acceptable. No surrender.</p>
<p>We owe Cats and Dogs who give us unconditional love more than we could ever give it back to them in return, nothing less.</p>
<p>Remember the mission.</p>
<p>No-Kill.</p>
<p>It wont get done by playing games or by tolerating games being played. This is serious. It&#8217;s life or death.</p>
<p>Make believe that the next cat or dog on death row is your child (Cats and Dogs are equally as precious, and equally deserving of life and love, as any of us human animals). Now, act on behalf of that cat or dog as you would on behalf of your child.</p>
<p>Would the NYC situation be overlooked, tolerated, or ignored if your child was there in the middle of it, and were the next in line to be added to &#8220;the pile&#8221; of dead victims? Neither should the situation involving the beautiful four legged Children of God in shelters (Cats and Dogs) be overlooked, tolerated or ignored.</p>
<p>THAT is the way a true No Kill group SHOULD view their fellow living souls, and as we have seen, NYC&#8217;s ASPCA/Mayor&#8217;s Alliance doesnt know &#8220;shinola&#8221; from that &#8220;other stuff&#8221; when it comes to treating every cat and dog as an individual person&#8230;an individual soul.  And it is the same in kill shelters and pounds all across the nation and the world&#8230;.politics&#8230;. &#8220;Sing a lullaby of lies to those who care about animals until they seem satisfied (though the killing continues which is UNSATISFACTORY) and those who dont care, we dont have to worry about them&#8230;meanwhile, the dough keeps rolling in and our status quo, which we have become very comfortable with, remains unchanged&#8221; is the attitude of these groups, and they pose a clear and present danger to every four legged soul in every shelter across the nation and the world.</p>
<p>We cant ignore these indifferent, ignorant, arrogant, speciesist human elitist murderers anymore&#8230;.. It is time to take a stand against them&#8230;..as you would if your child was a member of a children&#8217;s kill shelter, who is giving you the runaround, while murdering children behind the scenes.</p>
<p>After all, we are ALL Children of the same God.</p>
<p>One life. One soul.</p>
<p>Dont forget it.</p>
<p>On Behalf of Shelter Cats and Dogs, I am,</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update on Petaluma feral cats in a letter to Petaluma City Council Members:

There was a celebration of sort in Petaluma when we heard that animal shelter manager resigned several weeks ago.  We had hopes for Petaluma animals - specially homeless and feral cats.

After being turned down several times by this city, Jennifer Kirchner, Executive Director for Forgotten Felines, was talked into getting involved again and she pleaded for Petaluma homeless and feral cats.   Last Monday evening, this council turned down the help of Forgotten Felines again.  We were all so surprised.  I gave each council member a video "Born Feral" about the work of Forgotten Felines.  I was hoping you would look at it.  It was your duty to educate yourself.  I have done  everything humanely possible to save our homeless and feral cats.

Something stinks at Petaluma City Hall and it is not cats.  It is dirty politics and we need to make some drastic changes.  We, the people of Petaluma, need to wake up and take charge of our government.  The general population expects our animals treated fairly.  Many of us worked so hard toward these goals. 

I am so heartbroken - and embarrassed to be a resident of Petaluma where river docents and dear friends of this council talk about killing or getting rid of everything that get in their way.  What is left for me to do is to work at replacing this council because I think Petaluma deserves better.

Last Monday I heard a Shollenberger docent complaining about the lack of visitors.  What they (docents) don't understand is that birdwatchers are disappointed after one visit. They go back home and they tell their friends that what they read about Petaluma River and wetland was not what they experienced.  Birdwatchers are like everyone else.  They are not dumb people and they don't want cats or white swans killed.  When the rest of the country hears that again Petaluma failed to protect animals, tourists may stop by but won't be staying in Petaluma.

I am so, so disappointed.  Poor Cats

Elle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update on Petaluma feral cats in a letter to Petaluma City Council Members:</p>
<p>There was a celebration of sort in Petaluma when we heard that animal shelter manager resigned several weeks ago.  We had hopes for Petaluma animals - specially homeless and feral cats.</p>
<p>After being turned down several times by this city, Jennifer Kirchner, Executive Director for Forgotten Felines, was talked into getting involved again and she pleaded for Petaluma homeless and feral cats.   Last Monday evening, this council turned down the help of Forgotten Felines again.  We were all so surprised.  I gave each council member a video &#8220;Born Feral&#8221; about the work of Forgotten Felines.  I was hoping you would look at it.  It was your duty to educate yourself.  I have done  everything humanely possible to save our homeless and feral cats.</p>
<p>Something stinks at Petaluma City Hall and it is not cats.  It is dirty politics and we need to make some drastic changes.  We, the people of Petaluma, need to wake up and take charge of our government.  The general population expects our animals treated fairly.  Many of us worked so hard toward these goals. </p>
<p>I am so heartbroken - and embarrassed to be a resident of Petaluma where river docents and dear friends of this council talk about killing or getting rid of everything that get in their way.  What is left for me to do is to work at replacing this council because I think Petaluma deserves better.</p>
<p>Last Monday I heard a Shollenberger docent complaining about the lack of visitors.  What they (docents) don&#8217;t understand is that birdwatchers are disappointed after one visit. They go back home and they tell their friends that what they read about Petaluma River and wetland was not what they experienced.  Birdwatchers are like everyone else.  They are not dumb people and they don&#8217;t want cats or white swans killed.  When the rest of the country hears that again Petaluma failed to protect animals, tourists may stop by but won&#8217;t be staying in Petaluma.</p>
<p>I am so, so disappointed.  Poor Cats</p>
<p>Elle</p>
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		<dc:creator>Azar "Ace" Attura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't understand why someone who has such a HUGE lack of empathy would even CONSIDER working in an animal shelter. My heart goes out to Tito AND to the woman whose cat fell out the window and died.

It also doesn't sound like that intergenerational home has any thoughts about Tito's safety in mind.

I hope someone takes pity on Tito's precarious outdoor lifestyle and rehomes him indoors into a loving home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t understand why someone who has such a HUGE lack of empathy would even CONSIDER working in an animal shelter. My heart goes out to Tito AND to the woman whose cat fell out the window and died.</p>
<p>It also doesn&#8217;t sound like that intergenerational home has any thoughts about Tito&#8217;s safety in mind.</p>
<p>I hope someone takes pity on Tito&#8217;s precarious outdoor lifestyle and rehomes him indoors into a loving home.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Azar "Ace" Attura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember seeing those innocent faces who were on Death Row at TLAC -- those faces will haunt me forever. They did nothing to desreve being on Death Row -- but now perhaps I can breathe a little easier-- knowing that TLAC is on the road to saving more lives.

Thank you "FixAustin" fdor all the hard work you have done for these innocent beings!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember seeing those innocent faces who were on Death Row at TLAC &#8212; those faces will haunt me forever. They did nothing to desreve being on Death Row &#8212; but now perhaps I can breathe a little easier&#8211; knowing that TLAC is on the road to saving more lives.</p>
<p>Thank you &#8220;FixAustin&#8221; fdor all the hard work you have done for these innocent beings!!!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I emailed and I wish you the best with this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons so many pets die in our shelters is because the people at the shelters do such a lossy job in most areas of costumer service from the hours they are open to the info they fail to give out. Leadership and training are lacking, but most of all caring for people and animals is just not there.

Yes, there are some good, hard working people in animal control, but they seems to be so few and far apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons so many pets die in our shelters is because the people at the shelters do such a lossy job in most areas of costumer service from the hours they are open to the info they fail to give out. Leadership and training are lacking, but most of all caring for people and animals is just not there.</p>
<p>Yes, there are some good, hard working people in animal control, but they seems to be so few and far apart.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Michel Meunier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations, Ryan, and the rest of the Fix Austin crew.  This is fantastic news that your hard work has reaped some rewards.  I am wishing you and your community a more progressive future!</description>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Saunders</dc:creator>
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		<description>"But NO irresponsible dog owner will alter their dog."

That isn't true either. There are people who may spay/neuter but feed improperly, fail to train, or don't provide adequate medical care, supervision, or exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But NO irresponsible dog owner will alter their dog.&#8221;</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t true either. There are people who may spay/neuter but feed improperly, fail to train, or don&#8217;t provide adequate medical care, supervision, or exercise.</p>
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